5 minutes here for Ninjakato.
"Why do you artists always get so pissed off when someone uses your artwork? You should take it as a compliment!"
"You should take it as a Compliment --
A compliment would be admiring an artist's work where they
post it, and if you really want to use it that badly, complimenting them would be you having enough respect for them to ask first.
Most of us don't get mad because you use it, it's because you use it without asking or pretend you didn't know who/where it came from when there's a link to where you can find the original artist on the image.
Taking someone's car to crash it in a derby isn't a compliment to them any more than taking someone's art to wreck it or claim it is a compliment. More so without asking.
"What about realism artists?! They copy from photographs all the time, no originality there but you don't yell at them for copying photos! What makes some one copying/tracing another artist's work so different?"Firstly --
When someone is referencing a photograph they are essentially looking at pure material. When you do this you are usually looking to draw something realistically and precisely enough to where it's recognizable and anatomically correct.
Referencing is not the same as tracing. Copying? Yes, to a degree but there's a hook -- Copying a stock photo to ensure decent anatomy is different than taking another artist's work and copying/tracing it for anatomy practice. If their sense of anatomy is wrong you aren't learning anything at all.
Photos can technically
be someone's property but if they put it as stock or reference material they offer it for free license and use by others. They took the image with their camera but they forgo complete ownership in a way. Secondly --
Copying a photograph for anatomically correct proportions hardly renders an image 'not creative/original'. Creativity doesn't come from the references used, it comes from the artist's ability to use them in a creative and innovative fashion. Copying or closely referencing a photograph merely dictates whether or not the final outcome is either believable or properly proportioned.
"If you didn't want it stolen, don't post it online."
If I got money for every time I've heard this, I'd have a Ferrari by now...
Look, just because it's there doesn't mean it's free to take. More so if it's got someone's name on it. My car being parked on the street doesn't mean someone can just hop in and take it for a spin -- "It was just sitting there, your name isn't on it!"
"Online ≠ Mine"
A store putting a plate of cookies out on the counter doesn't make them free unless they say 'free cookies!' and even then, you're better off asking in case it's not THOSE cookies that are free. Artists shouldn't have to be worried about their stuff getting ganked because people can't keep their hands to themselves online. It's called common sense. Use it. If you didn't make it or ask for it and get the 'okay', it's not yours.
"I'm just using your character's likeness -- it's not like I'm claiming I drew it or created it!"
And you can't create your own characters? I mean, you can write out everything about them so why not write out a description as well?
I can't entirely speak for other artists on this one but creating a character is hard work enough let alone drawing it out to the specs you want. Many of us spend hours or even days-weeks-months trying to come up with decent characters and we put a lot of heart and soul into them. To you they may just be cool drawings but to us they're our creations; part of us.
I think a lot of people are well aware that if you see someone with 20 different art styles in their list of characters chances are they didn't draw them. So it's not that people are claiming they drew them (not all the time anyway) -- it's again, using our IP for your RP without asking or respecting our rights and terms as the original creator.
You can't copyright ideas or even colors, markings, poses, and personality traits. However, images are something an artist CAN copyright. If you want to have a blue and orange wolf character that acts like Optimus Prime, fine. You can do that, but you can't take someone's wolf version of Optimus Prime and use it as a bio pic for your character without asking. Catch my drift?
Write out a bio to describe your character, it works just as well if you're a good writer -- And if you're that hard up for a visual, ask or pay an artist to draw it for your personally. Then your character will be made up to specs you want instead of having to steal to get something close.
So you see, it's not that we're selfish whiny pissbabies... It's more because we love our work and we'd love you to enjoy our work as well. On OUR terms. If you respect an artist, respect their rights and terms.
End of story.
First of all, stealing original images and act stupid when you get caught doesn't pay off. Nobody is going to care about your shitty excuses. You got caught for art thievery and you must wear consequences for what you did. Artist wont have nothing against it to use their art as long as you ASK THEM FIRST!
Seriously, it's not so hard to ask original owner by viaNote.
and ask him:May I use your art for RP Forums, chats, as an avatar, ID, to practice my skills on
and so fourth. Artist will answer you with yes. AS LONG AS YOU DON'T CLAIM AS OWN AND USE IT ONLY FOR PERSONAL! NOT PUBLIC!
Desktop [background for your computer], iPad and other type of crap which count as a personal use. If you edited, recolor it, make a stupid memes, cheap screenshot, crappy photo manipulation, or try to make a stock image out of it, then it's called art thievery and you will get busted by his fans and by original user. If you like someones carachter, art, photography then make a fan art for him to show how you respect his skills. It doesn't matter how crappy and poor look like, matter of point is, artist will respect it and share it with his followers and others on dA. There's a button called "Favorites" on every deviation page you visit, use THAT to add stuff you like to your collection, because that's why it's there.
This one is so obvious,
I don't know how many times I heard stupid excuses like:But I'm faving it because I like it
. I don't steal it if I post it on my gallery account.
Or an example of this can be found on every stolen deviation they submit:I'm just sharing it to show others, on that way I'm making original artist more popular.
No you don't, you just make yourself look like a total fool when you do that.
If you want to make original artist popular, here's a better idea, featured their work in art community groups, on that way people will see original art and spread to other art community groups so others can view it. Or even better, suggest a DD [Daily Deviation]. There are plenty of volunteers who will listen your suggestion of which art should be featured in Daily Deviation category so everyone can view it and share it in other community groups by via Journal features. On this way you will make artist more popular and show him how you respect his hard work he spend by making an official character, commissions, personal OC's and yadididi yadidi ya. Stop being a cry baby.
You're not making yourself look smart when you say all these words I mention it above, you look like a total idiot when you behave like this. But A'm autistic I don't knouw da ruls, stap bulling mi!!1!
Oh Dear Lord NO!
Just not THAT!
Other typical excuses which you will hear from art thieves: I'm autistic
This one is very popular and obvious My English is not first language so I don't understand the rules of dA
Ask someone to translate it for you. I have a mental disorder
So? Is that your excuse for being stupid? My mother made this account
Then your mother is stupid, just like you. I saw other sites share it, so I decided to share it too
It's because they ask the artist FIRST!
They didn't steal it like you. I don't own this THEN DON'T POST IT!
This is my mothers computer
That is still not your excuse to be a thief! I'm 11/12 years old (too young) [underage] to understand the copyright law
Then you are too young to be here. Learn the copyright laws and then come back when you reach 13.FAQ #696: How does deviantART comply with COPPA? I found this on Twitter, tumblir, FunnyJunk, [SHIT]book (Facebook)
You don't own it - You don't post it! Somebody hack me, I didn't know I was hacked until I found out
How many time I heard this excuse? My sister/brother did that. Blame her/them, not me
Then change the password so they wont do it again. Others stealing it from me, so I'm stealing it from them.
That's not how it goes my friend.
FAQ #155: How do I report a deviation which I think breaks the rules? But I credit it, so I don't break the rules.
Not enough. FAQ #306: Does "Crediting" let me use whatever I want?
If I and NinjaKato got money for every time when he hear this kind of excuses, especially most popular one like, mental disorder, hacked and autistic, we would probably buy our self a country to live.
Learn what bullying is, before you decide to throw THAT
type of tantrum as a shitty confetti. What is bullying?
Here what bullying actually is:
Cyberbullies, what are they and how to avoid them?Cyberbullies are today the biggest problem of the dA community, many members don't know how to deal with them or how to avoid being cyberbullied by a cyberbully. Best thing would be is to block him, write a journal about him, warn your friends to be aware of him in case if cyberbully attack them. Contact the antitheft groups or group which are dedicated for dealing with cyberbully problem. Fill a ticket to helpdesk and wait for admin of CEA Communication to assign your request and decide what to do with a cyberbully who harass you and your friend.
First of all what is cyberbullying? That is a question that many people ask and most of them don't know the answer, while some of them use a term cyberbully when somebody enforce them the rules of dA terms of service or telling them to take violation image down. This is a typical thing for a thief to say a member:
You're bullying me stap it!!!1! No! Bullying is not when somebody enforce you the rules of dA terms of service, bull
Keep it in your mind that this is deviantART community, not
This is deviantART
made for ART community
for posting things you don't own. If you believe you have rights to post whatever you found on internet, then this site is NOT
a place for you. Deactivate yourself and go back to cave where you belong. People like you are NOT
Or even better, got to Facebook and post garbage you stole it there. Facebook don't care about artist copyrights. It's perfectly fits them when their shitty site is filled with art thieves like you. Also, learn a difference between nagging and explaining you the rules of dA shit, before you start trowing that tantrum like a shitty confetti, because you don't know both of that.
Nagging, in interpersonal communication, is repetitious behaviour in the form of pestering, hectoring or otherwise continuously urging an individual to complete previously discussed requests or act on advice. A form of persistent persuasion that is more repetitive rather than aggressive.
According to the Wall Street Journal, nagging is "the interaction in which one person repeatedly makes a request, the other person repeatedly ignores it and both become increasingly annoyed". Thus, nagging is an interaction to which each party contributes.
According to Kari P. Soule "That Interpersonal ritual is nagging. Yet, the term nagging seldom appears in interpersonal communication or conflict textbooks.It appears that "nagging" is commonly used in everyday conversation but it rarely makes it to academic print"
The word is derived from the Scandinavian nagga, which means "to gnaw".
Nagging by spouses is a frequent marital complaint. Psychotherapists such as Edward S. Dean have reported that individuals who nag are often "weak, insecure, and fearful ... their nagging disguises a basic feeling of weakness and provides an illusion of power and superiority". Nagging is sometimes used by spouses of alcoholics as one of several "drinking control efforts", but it is often unproductive. Psychologically, nagging can act to reinforce behavior. A study by the University of Florida found the main factors that lead a person to nag are differences in "gender, social distance, and social status and power".Nagging has been found to attributed to be more of a feminine form of interpersonal communication rather than masculine. Nagging is often seen as at repetitious form of persuasion rather resorting to more aggressive persuasion tactics in order to gain compliance .Which was found in a study by Kari P. Soule (Ph. D., Communication Studies)--Northwestern University of 63 females and 40 males aged 19 and one of 202 people aged 24 to 84-49. An equal number of men and women nag,however studies have shown that women are more likely to nag both men and women ,while men are more likely to nag only men . Meaning women nag all people,which can be attributed to the reason why women are stereotyped as nagging people all the time.
Nagging can be found between both male and female spouses, though usually over different subjects, according to a Good Housekeeping article which described husbands' nagging as usually involving finding "fault with their dinner, with the household bills [and] with the children", along with "carry[ING] home the worries of business."It has been found that behavioural noncompliance is more common among spouses. Behavioral noncompliance referrers to when person whom is being nagged remains silent while being nagged or who agrees to complete the request, but later does not follow through. This is strategy in order to end the confrontation or interaction quickly without conflict, which is why its is common among spouses or partners. As the nagging interaction that starts out in a calm and polite manner which continues and persuader becomes more repetitive, the interaction is more likely to become aggressive in nature. The persuasive target could also respond in a more direct fashion through the tactic of verbal noncompliance. Verbal noncompliance refers to when the persuasive target telling a persuader through word that they will not comply. An example of verbal noncompliance could be a simple no, or I am too busy right now more even more elaborate response. This tactic does end the nagging interaction more rapidly; however it can cause a more aggressive response from the persuader who may alter persistent persuasion to threats or another aggressive form of persuasion.
Parental and child nagging
In terms of parental nagging of children, a study at Washington State University in 1959 stated that this nagging was a "symptom of the rejection of the child" because of the way that children interfere with the parents' "individual needs and aspirations" with their requirements of "time and energy". According to James U. McNeal in his 1992 book Kids as Customers, there are seven classifications of juvenile nagging, wherein children nag their parents to obtain something they desire.
The interpersonal interaction
Nagging as a form of interpersonal communication is considered to be a form of persistent persuasion that requires a persuader and a persuasive target. The interaction can be broken down into a 4 step interaction process according to Martin A Kozloff A researcher whom has identified in his work the four main steps of the nagging . The 4 steps in the interaction are as follows:
- Nagger gives signal to perform or stop performing a task or behavior.
- Naggee does not comply to request from the nagger.
- In response the nagger repeats their request or signal in further effort to gain compliance.
- The Naggee again responds with non-compliance
Kazloff argues that this interaction cycle continues until the Naggee complies to the Nagger’s request or the nagger gives up the attempt to persuade the Naggee. Kazloff also identifies other important aspects of the persistent persuasion such as non-compliance is necessary for the persuader to be persistent and the persuader will often change the initial requests words and Paralinguistic cues as a strategic tactic. This will hopefully entices the persuasive target into complying with the request. Nagging a very common form of persuasion which is used in all aspects of life whether domestic , professional it is common practice in order to avoid more aggressive persuasive tactics like threats.
When you start following these rules we mention it above, you wont have problem with us and you will longer. Follow them and everything will be alright.
We're looking at you, art thieves.
We're actually trying to HELP YOU
from getting into serious shit, not harass you with the rules.